275. Work, Parent, Thrive with Yael Schonbrun

Working parenthood is not for the faint of heart. Sometimes the stress of toggling between family and professional roles can feel like too much! And… it can also be a meaningful source of joy, inspiration, and creativity. Ideas from psychology can transform your mindset on working parenthood and help you to thrive!

In this extra special episode, we talk to our very own co-host, Dr. Yael Schonbrun about her new book, Work, Parent Thrive: 12 Science-Backed Strategies to Ditch Guilt, Manage Overwhelm, and Grow Connection (When Everything Feels Like Too Much). Yael draws on psychology research as well as her own experience as a working mom of three, to offer ideas that will help even the most stressed of working parents! This book banishes the idea that the key to ultimate working parenthood is the ability to do it all. Instead, the key is to learn how these roles, together, help you thrive.

Listen and Learn: 

  • How Yael’s own experience as a hard-working mother of three informed her ideas for her book. 
  • How to shift from a “work family conflict mindset” to a “work family enrichment mindset”
  • Why interruptions that feel really annoying might actually be good for you. 
  • Whether or not finding perfect work-life balance is a realistic goal (spoiler alert: it’s not)
  • The role of values in making choices about work and family 
  • How to deal with parental guilt effectively
  • How working parenthood offers opportunities for growth
  • About how cooking has offered Jill a lesson in when to grit and when to quit
  • The power of rest, and what Yael is up to on her tech-free Saturday sabbath days
  • How working parenthood can fuel happiness through mastery, agency, and connectedness


About Yael: 

Dr. Yael Schonbrun is a co-host of the greatest podcast of all time, Psychologists Off the Clock, and that’s all you need to know about her. 

Just kidding! Yael Schonbrun, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist, assistant professor at Brown University, co-host of Psychologists Off the Clock, and mother of three. She has a B.A. from Washington University in St. Louis, a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Colorado, Boulder, and completed her postgraduate training at Brown University. Yael’s academic research explores the interaction between relationship problems and mental health conditions. She has authored the book Work, Parent Thrive: 12 Science-Backed Strategies to Ditch Guilt, Manage Overwhelm, and Grow Connection (When Everything Feels Like Too Much), as well as chapters in several books and dozens of scientific articles. In her private practice, writing, and podcasting, Yael uses evidence-based science to help individuals and couples learn to manage work, parenting, and marriage in more effective and fulfilling ways. She draws upon treatments that integrate ancient Eastern philosophy with scientifically backed practices. Yael’s writing on work, parenting, and relationships has appeared in the New York TimesWall Street JournalGreater Good Science CenterBehavioral ScientistKvellerLilith MagazineThe Wise Brain BulletinPsychology Today, and Motherly. You can follow her on Twitter, where she posts about the science and practice of work and family.

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Episode 275