176. Fair Play with Eve Rodsky


For far too long, women have been held responsible for completing an unfair share of work (especially invisible labor) at home. Even if a woman works a full-time job outside of the home, she is often also expected to complete the majority of domestic and emotional labor. What’s to be done about all the “invisible work” women do to keep partnerships afloat? In today’s episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, Eve Rodsky, author of Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live), and co-host Jill answer that question. Women have been held to an unreachable standard for too long. Now, take a breather, and join us to learn about creating equal partnerships at home, navigating unmanageable demands, and much, much more!

Listen and Learn:

  • About Jill, Diana, and Eve’s personal struggles with trying to be the perfect partner, mother, and worker
  • How an invisible “I should do” list might be affecting your life and your relationship
  • Some important (and shocking!) statistics on how motherhood affects women 
  • Why women’s invisible workload matters and how you can help shift the system that supports it
  • Eve’s breakdown of Fair Play – her empirically based, step-by-step system for impacting lasting change in your partnership
  • The important differences between playing fair and keeping score with your partner
  • How modeling good-partner-behavior might impact your kids for the better
  • About Jill’s experience playing Eve’s card-game, The Fair Play Deck (and Eve’s tips-and-tricks for playing fairly)
  • How to connect your work-time balance to your values through a minimum standard of care 


About Eve Rodsky, J.D.

Eve Rodsky is working to change society one marriage at a time by coming up with a new 21st century solution to an age-old problem: women shouldering the brunt of childrearing and domestic life responsibilities regardless of whether they work outside the home.

In her New York Times bestselling book Fair Play, she uses her Harvard Law School training and years of organizational management experience to create a life-management system to help couples both rebalance all of the work it takes to run a home and reimagine their relationship, time and purpose.

Eve Rodsky received her B.A. in economics and anthropology from the University of Michigan, and her J.D. from Harvard Law School. After working in foundation management at J.P. Morgan, she founded the Philanthropy Advisory Group to advise high-net worth families and charitable foundations on best practices for harmonious operations, governance and disposition of funds. In her work with hundreds of families over a decade, she realized that her expertise in family mediation, strategy, and organizational management could be applied to a problem closer to home – a system for couples seeking balance, efficiency, and peace in their home. Rodsky was born and raised by a single mom in New York City and now lives in Los Angeles with her husband and their three children. Visit her website to learn more! 

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Episode 176