206. Fair Play Part 2 with Eve Rodsky

An interesting trope exists among super-heroines. Their powers often involve invisibility. From the Invisible Woman (Susan Storm) of the Fantastic Four to Invisigirl (Violet Parr) of the Incredibles, the examples are nearly endless. In the real world, women are often expected to do the majority of “invisible” domestic and emotional work. This important work is rarely discussed or disseminated across partners and can leave women feeling burnt-out, frustrated, and exhausted (read: not super). Eve Rodsky, author of Fair Play, is an expert in family mediation, strategy, and organizational management and is dedicated to creating a modern system for couples seeking balance, efficiency, and peace in their home. In this episode of POTC, Eve joins Jill once again for a follow-up discussion on finding freedom and peace in playing fairly with your partner. Grab a comfy seat, and listen as Eve answers all of your burning questions from her previous visit!

Listen and Learn:

  • Jill and Diana discuss the importance of “check-ins” and what real Fair Play looks like in their personal lives
  • Real examples of when and how Fair Play works 
  • Practical advice for the conception, planning, and execution (CPE) process when values differ
  • Why vulnerability might be the key to compromise
  • The political movement of Fair Play (read: how to get society on board with believing our time is valuable)
  • The meaningful caregiving experiences Fair Play creates for men 
  • How to incorporate teenagers into Fair Play
  • Expert-approved tips for helping other couples as a third-party
  • How to Play Fair even when schedules are constantly shifting
  • What to do when everyone is feeling burnt out
  • Maintaining boundaries after you’ve established Fair Play
  • The therapists’ guide to teaching clients Fair Play


About Eve Rodsky, JD:

Eve Rodsky is working to change society one marriage at a time by coming up with a new 21st century solution to an age-old problem: women shouldering the brunt of childrearing and domestic life responsibilities regardless of whether they work outside the home.

In her New York Times bestselling book Fair Play, she uses her Harvard Law School training and years of organizational management experience to create a life-management system to help couples both rebalance all of the work it takes to run a home and reimagine their relationship, time and purpose.

Eve Rodsky received her B.A. in economics and anthropology from the University of Michigan, and her J.D. from Harvard Law School. After working in foundation management at J.P. Morgan, she founded the Philanthropy Advisory Group to advise high-net worth families and charitable foundations on best practices for harmonious operations, governance and disposition of funds. In her work with hundreds of families over a decade, she realized that her expertise in family mediation, strategy, and organizational management could be applied to a problem closer to home – a system for couples seeking balance, efficiency, and peace in their home. Rodsky was born and raised by a single mom in New York City and now lives in Los Angeles with her husband and their three children. Find Eve on Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn, or visit her website to learn more!

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Episode 206